VDSL2 Kingston Communications ?

[MickyByte]

I have recently being reading many articles about the technology known as VDSL2, from what I have discovered it is another Digital Subscriber Line service that exploits the existing infrastructure of copper wires to provide speeds up-to 200 megabits per second (beyond any Nano Stations capability). Apparently it is a rather complex and new protocol originally developed to support demanding services such as HDTV, VOIP and interactive gaming. According to Paul Donovan chair executive of Eircom telecommunications it is an enhancement to the original G.993.1 (VDSL) that permits the transmission of asymmetric and symmetric signals both downstream and upstream on twisted pairs using a frequency of 30 MHZ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPFqWwSuODk  

!!Real Men use VDSL2!!  

[dunny]

sounds good never heard of it

[MickyByte]

It is widely used across most of Europe apparently, I reckon that we will see this in Hull soon however.

It is only a matter of time. 

[dunny]

I dont know but i hope it comes and kc start to use it but what ive read up about it needs a fiber feed

Very-high-speed digital subscriber line 2 (VDSL2) is an access technology that exploits the existing infrastructure of copper wires that were originally deployed for POTS. It can be deployed from central offices, from fibre-fed cabinets located near the customer premises, or within buildings.

VDSL2 is the newest and most advanced standard of DSL broadband wireline communications. Designed to support the wide deployment of triple play services such as voice, video, data, high definition television (HDTV) and interactive gaming, VDSL2 is purported to enable operators and carriers to gradually, flexibly, and cost-efficiently upgrade existing xDSL infrastructure.

The protocol was standardized as ITU G.993.2 on February 17, 2006.

ITU-T G.993.2 (VDSL2) is an enhancement to G.993.1 (VDSL) that permits the transmission of asymmetric and symmetric aggregate data rates up to 200 Mbit/s downstream and upstream on twisted pairs using a bandwidth up to 30 MHz.

VDSL2 deteriorates quickly from a theoretical maximum of 250 Mbit/s at source to 100 Mbit/s at 0.5 km (1,600 ft) and 50 Mbit/s at 1 km (3,300 ft), but degrades at a much slower rate from there, and still outperforms VDSL. Starting from 1.6 km (1 mi) its performance is equal to ADSL2+.

ADSL-like long reach performance is one of the key advantages of VDSL2. LR-VDSL2 enabled systems are capable of supporting speeds of around 1–4 Mbit/s (downstream) over distances of 4–5 km (2.5–3 miles), gradually increasing the bit rate up to symmetric 100 Mbit/s as loop-length shortens. This means that VDSL2-based systems, unlike VDSL1 systems, are not limited to short local loops or MTU/MDUs only, but can also be used for medium range applications.

[MickyByte]

Dont KC already have fiber to the cabinet.

[dunny]

Dont KC already have fiber to the cabinet.

lmfao

[richardmyers]

Given KC and their '10 year' fiber roll out, we should see this maybe in 2050-2075. Outdated by then of course.

[MickyByte]

As sources from Wikipedia stated this only requires a fiber optic feed to the cabinet (FTTC) which most of them are in the process of doing so around Hull now.

Dunny I also am curious to know why you found my post so amusing, I was only stating that what has already been discussed and agreed to in a previous thread i.e. MS3 est.

[dunny]

cause ive never seen kc doing any FTTC work in or around hull, will it happen? it might one day but dont count on it been within the next 10 years, BUT i hope im wrong.

MS3 rnt doing FTTC they are doing FTTE

[richardmyers]

As sources from Wikipedia stated this only requires a fiber optic feed to the cabinet (FTTC) which most of them are in the process of doing so around Hull now.

Dunny I also am curious to know why you found my post so amusing, I was only stating that what has already been discussed and agreed to in a previous thread i.e. MS3 est.

I would say wait and see, if everything MS3 comes off and is actually true then I'll be amazed and stunned, I may even eat my hat.

[MickyByte]

Thanks for that response Dunny, I personally would have loved however for you to response earlier to my post rather than just laughing about it, although that doesn't mean they are not just because you haven't seen them do it, I have and so has HighTreason I believe could be wrong though lol.
(The odds are against me I suspect )

Back on topic however this VDSL technology has also been brought up before on this site I believe.

[dunny]

Ive never heard of it before the first i heard was from you today, As for FTTC i hope to see it happen but im doubtfull its KC after all

[MickyByte]

I hope I am correct because VDSL2 can be a great alternative until fiber is widely available, the speeds achievable with this service is simply outstanding.

I think its safe to assure that we can both agree on that, and also in regards to Airnet Services in some respects lol.

[dunny]

micky we can agree on most things that said the things we never used to agree on (airnet) we now agree on

As for VDSL i pray it comes but WHEN it will come but knowing kc it wont be for awhile

[richardmyers]

I hope I am correct because VDSL2 can be a great alternative until fiber is widely available, the speeds achievable with this service is simply outstanding.

I think its safe to assure that we can both agree on that, and also in regards to Airnet Services in some respects lol.

If KC don't do this VDSL2 then someone should, if it really can deliver what it says on the tin then it makes a lot of sense - especially in Hull. If KC don't do it, well, need I say any more really?