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« on: October 30, 2007, 04:50:20 pm » |
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Simply put, how would an alternative ISP set up here in nomansland without using Karoo's ridiculous wholesale prices?
Satellite?
Running Fibre Optic from BT exchange? (I think there is one in Hull somewhere, wouldn't it be possible to completely usurp KCOM like a Trojan Horse and use BT wholesale prices instead?)
Microwave Link?
How about this new '3G' Service? Any thoughts on that?
Also I have another question, I've heard that Secondary Schools in the "KCOM" area have fast connections (compared to the rest of us), but they use "ERIL": (Electronic Resources in Libraries Home) is that an independent ISP? or is that just an educational reseller from KCOM?
Also, about bloody time someone set up a site like this!
Well done.
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« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2007, 05:04:39 pm » |
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MCI world com run EIRL!!!
and its meshed between ISPs so clean VPN and no shareing
bugger!!
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« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2007, 05:27:19 pm » |
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MCI world com run EIRL!!!
and its meshed between ISPs so clean VPN and no shareing
bugger!!
Bugger indeed! Is there any way alternative connections have could be smuggled in? |
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« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2007, 05:30:28 pm » |
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Wireless is our only hope!!
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« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2007, 06:03:13 pm » |
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Wireless from who though?
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« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2007, 06:38:27 pm » |
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Azzuri offer business's in Hull wireless internet and other services. cant seem to find upto date stuff on there site but Cached version of a pdf that was on the siteAzzurri Communications Goulton Street Kingston upon Hull East Yorkshire HU3 4DD Telephone +44 (0)1482 601 100 Facsimile +44 (0)1482 587 703 info@azzu.co.ukSure its exstreamly expensive though! but get them interested in selling to the public - or get a reseller deal going. Just me thinking  |
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« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2007, 07:47:52 pm » |
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Are they a KCOM reseller or do they connect from BT?
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« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2007, 08:17:07 pm » |
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Azzuri have their own private link on KCOM's opti-switch platform back to their central offices. Hull schools internet link to provided via YHGFL which link back onto the YHMAN network, they still require opti-switch links though.
Screw wireless, its way toooo slow and I have yet to see a really robust mesh platform yet, 20Mbit backbone is just too slow. Fibre is the future!
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2007, 08:20:46 pm » |
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Screw wireless, its way toooo slow and I have yet to see a really robust mesh platform yet, 20Mbit backbone is just too slow. Fibre is the future!
So would it be possible to totally ignore KCOM's presence here and put fibre down from BT? (ignoring the fact that it would be uneconomic) |
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« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2007, 08:27:23 pm » |
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Anyone with the correct planning permissions could lay fibre in the ground, I know there are companies in Hull which own fibre ducts with private fibre running in them.
There are plenty of companies other than BT which could provide a large internet pipe.
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« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2007, 08:36:05 pm » |
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So, to clarify, in theory, you could lay down (with planning permission) your own fibre connection from outside KCOM into the KCOM area? How many people would this be able to serve?
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2007, 08:43:02 pm » |
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Yes you could lay the fibre, if you were laying fibre I would recommend a large core cable, say 32 core. That cable could support 16 x 10gig links, that would be enough to provide internet bandwidth for everyone in Hull.
The real question is who would provide the internet pipe on the other side of the fibre.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2007, 12:35:26 pm » |
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Just had a word with a friendly BT network manager.
New Ductwork - Softsurface (includes wayleave costs) 35.00
New Ductwork - Footway (includes wayleave costs) 80.00
New Ductwork - Carriageway (includes wayleave costs) 140.00
That’s pounds per meter for new ductwork and fibre
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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2007, 01:11:51 pm » |
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The real question is who would provide the internet pipe on the other side of the fibre.
BT? Also: SatelliteStandard Installation & Hardware - £1100.00 Service Option Speed Monthly Tariff Sat512 512/128 £59.00 Sat512+ 512/256 £89.00 Sat1000 1024/256 £139.00 Sat1000+ 1024/512 £249.00 Sat2000 2048/512 £349.00 |
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