Hull24?

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http://www.hull24.com/index.shtml

They seem to have some sort of ISDN 'dial up' service running here, would they be interested in setting up broadband?

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Their parent company, Giacom, tried to cost a service a few years back.  They eventually got so sick of KC not providing the wholesale information in the way they were required to (I believe they mentioned something to do with the way the Kcom came up with the wholesale costings and their accounting procedures) Giacom made a formal complaint against Kcom to Ofcom.  Kcom then at the last minute agreed a deal with Giacom and they dropped the complaint.  Last time I spoke with Giacom they were confident they would be going ahead with a feasability study and would be ready with some kind of service 8 weeks later .... that was nearly 2 years ago so I think they've pretty much given up trying.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/bulletins/comp_bull_index/comp_bull_ccases/closed_all/cw_878/

This is the most important part of the complaint:-

Giacom seeks a reduction in the price of Kingston's wholesale IP Line service and central connection service. It alleges that Kingston has not evaluated its own costs properly, as Kingston's pricing mirrors BT's wholesale pricing, without taking into account differences that Giacom believes exist between the two services. Giacom argues that Kingston's prices should reflect Kingston's costs of delivering wholesale broadband to service providers within the Hull area, not BT's costs of delivering wholesale broadband access across a much wider area

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Depressing stuff that.

Another interesting thing is that it looks like that Karoo have posted a £10m profit on their Preliminary Results (2006/07)

Also, if you look on Page 6:

...The rebalancing of our consumer revenues in East Yorkshire towards a greater level of subscription income continues following the successful launch of our inclusive calling packages in 2005.
At 31 March, our broadband customer base exceeded 180,000 representing growth of 49.4 per cent on the prior year. In East Yorkshire, we now have a broadband customer base of approximately 75,000.
Competition within the broadband market across the UK remains intense and is likely to remain so. Our decision to invest in our customer and technical service capabilities, rather than investing capital in speculative Local Loop Unbundling,  has been rewarded with strong growth in customer numbers and has been recognised by the broadband industry with Eclipse, our national brand, winning the best consumer ISP at the UK ISPA awards in February 2007.

The last part disturbs me, don't they have to commence LLU?

Edit: (forgot to link to .PDF in question) http://www.kcom.com/investorcentre/docs/prelim_results_may_2007.pdf

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They mean LLU into more areas for themselves as in expanding out of Hull, not about people coming into the KC network area.